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sometimes i think that i write in my blog so i can talk about how i should feel instead of actually feeling it.
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stolen from bubbles
(weird, i had to fix the html for that to work)
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what is UP with the fifty year old men emailing me on matchmaking sites? aren't i a bit young for you?
oh god. what if i'm not?!?!?
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do you ever have a moment where you are literally slapped in the face with your own asssumptions or misunderstanding of the intricacies of a situation? where you are going along happily or sadly or angrily or whatever and then some trivial little detail is revealed and you are suddenly turned sideways?
this is especially maddening when you truly believed you had all the facts. when, after carefully reviewing a situation and entertaining about seventy different possible perspectives and the opinions of several carefully selected friends you think you *get* whatever it is that's going on.
and then *bam* some tiny little detail you missed or overlooked or weren't told is just there going 'but hey, what about me?' and suddenly?
yup, world turns sideways.
this happens to me a lot in pilates and movement but lately it's happening in personal situations as well.
anyway...
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my neighbour and i went off to crappy tire and bought some pots and earth yesterday and repotted all my plants. oh they look SO happy. a few of them had died due to the overly affectionate nature of my cats but the ones that survived are looking great. (harriet and faust eat spider plants)
what's interesting is the change that it's made in the aura of my apartment. my old pots were really tall because my old home had really tall windows. these pots are shorter and wider so there's less pot and more space on the window sill.
so my apartment is BRIGHTER! in fact it's bright like it was the first year i lived here before my plants got out of hand. it's really nice anyway.
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give it up for cast who actually sent me TWO jack johnson CDs. i didn't notice the second because harriet kicked it behind the computer.
so i have another one to hear and not be sick of the first one!!!
AND? it was like a little bonus prize to find for tidying.
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oh man.
oh man.
the leafs got their asses handed to them on a platter by the senators again (7-0) and i have to tell you that the longer i think on it the more i feel that the COACH is the problem. the leafs have been plagued with the identical issues for as long as i can remember and the cracks in their game are really starting to show through the rule changes brought in with this 'new nhl.'
dudes they sort of suck. all they do is dump the puck in the zone and chase after it. now sure against those bruiser teams of yesteryear they could simply outskate them to get possession.
but today? not a chance. they dump the puck and they're effectively handing it to the damm senators. combine their total inability to rush and pass with their complete unwillingness to shoot the puck anywhere near the net and what do you get?
a team that just fell out of a playoff slot. (fortunately there's three more months of season before they're really out but STILL.)
time to fire the coach folks.
i know, i know... pat quinn is an excellent olympic coach. in fact he's likely an excellent nhl coach but the leafs need a change and he's the only consistent factor left.
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it's ten after ten on a saturday night and i think i'm taking david sedaris and going to bed.
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went climbing today and some of the fluid was back. it's funny because it's really new for me so i sort of randomly do and don't have it. today i had it. i was flowing along the traverse wall and it was so easy to move.
funny thing is how tired my muscles were from doing it.
i wasn't doing anything new or hard i was just moving and trying to think about the way i was doing it and it was so easy. my body did whatever the hell i wanted it to.
but my fingers. my poor fingers.
i think i may be facing a fundamental conflict.
blogging?
or climbing?
or find three thousand bucks and buy a tablet computer...
[oops i forgot to POST this last night]
sometimes i think that i write in my blog so i can talk about how i should feel instead of actually feeling it.
.
stolen from bubbles
(weird, i had to fix the html for that to work)
.
what is UP with the fifty year old men emailing me on matchmaking sites? aren't i a bit young for you?
oh god. what if i'm not?!?!?
.
do you ever have a moment where you are literally slapped in the face with your own asssumptions or misunderstanding of the intricacies of a situation? where you are going along happily or sadly or angrily or whatever and then some trivial little detail is revealed and you are suddenly turned sideways?
this is especially maddening when you truly believed you had all the facts. when, after carefully reviewing a situation and entertaining about seventy different possible perspectives and the opinions of several carefully selected friends you think you *get* whatever it is that's going on.
and then *bam* some tiny little detail you missed or overlooked or weren't told is just there going 'but hey, what about me?' and suddenly?
yup, world turns sideways.
this happens to me a lot in pilates and movement but lately it's happening in personal situations as well.
anyway...
.
my neighbour and i went off to crappy tire and bought some pots and earth yesterday and repotted all my plants. oh they look SO happy. a few of them had died due to the overly affectionate nature of my cats but the ones that survived are looking great. (harriet and faust eat spider plants)
what's interesting is the change that it's made in the aura of my apartment. my old pots were really tall because my old home had really tall windows. these pots are shorter and wider so there's less pot and more space on the window sill.
so my apartment is BRIGHTER! in fact it's bright like it was the first year i lived here before my plants got out of hand. it's really nice anyway.
.
give it up for cast who actually sent me TWO jack johnson CDs. i didn't notice the second because harriet kicked it behind the computer.
so i have another one to hear and not be sick of the first one!!!
AND? it was like a little bonus prize to find for tidying.
.
oh man.
oh man.
the leafs got their asses handed to them on a platter by the senators again (7-0) and i have to tell you that the longer i think on it the more i feel that the COACH is the problem. the leafs have been plagued with the identical issues for as long as i can remember and the cracks in their game are really starting to show through the rule changes brought in with this 'new nhl.'
dudes they sort of suck. all they do is dump the puck in the zone and chase after it. now sure against those bruiser teams of yesteryear they could simply outskate them to get possession.
but today? not a chance. they dump the puck and they're effectively handing it to the damm senators. combine their total inability to rush and pass with their complete unwillingness to shoot the puck anywhere near the net and what do you get?
a team that just fell out of a playoff slot. (fortunately there's three more months of season before they're really out but STILL.)
time to fire the coach folks.
i know, i know... pat quinn is an excellent olympic coach. in fact he's likely an excellent nhl coach but the leafs need a change and he's the only consistent factor left.
.
it's ten after ten on a saturday night and i think i'm taking david sedaris and going to bed.
.
went climbing today and some of the fluid was back. it's funny because it's really new for me so i sort of randomly do and don't have it. today i had it. i was flowing along the traverse wall and it was so easy to move.
funny thing is how tired my muscles were from doing it.
i wasn't doing anything new or hard i was just moving and trying to think about the way i was doing it and it was so easy. my body did whatever the hell i wanted it to.
but my fingers. my poor fingers.
i think i may be facing a fundamental conflict.
blogging?
or climbing?
or find three thousand bucks and buy a tablet computer...
[oops i forgot to POST this last night]
54 Comments:
To answer some of your questions..
1. Actually you are too young for 50 year old men. I am 41 and would not accept anyone over 21. Wait, that's the viagra talking, yes...you are too young..but you have to give them credit for trying...
2 Been married twice..so yup..been slapped in the face with stuff I missed...
3. I had no idea they were playing hockey again. Is it still a sport people watch? Go Pistons...
4. Do you do any squatting in the gym? Might help the climbing muscles. Not hte smith machine squat..or any other fun variation...but real squats..to depth or below? Good for the soul...
5. Love your blog...keep it up..thanks....
hey casually :)
1. i thought 34 was too young for 50 also but they sure don't seem to think so. as for 41? much better. the 50 year olds are as ridiculous as the 19 year olds but that's what i seem to attract.
have you actually tried viagra and is it really that good? and did your partner agree?
2. been married once... and he missed a lot :)
3. yes, yes they are and it's much better with the new rules.... even if the leafs suck.
4. i don't do anything at the gym, i only weightlift with one client and that only for a couple more sessions.
also can't squat, knees won't let me :)
they were fun when i could still do them though.
5. thanks!
I love me some David Sedaris. I didn't know this until recently but I guess he is also a fixture on NPR. Maybe one of these days I will stop rocking out to ben folds or jack johnson or God knows what while I'm driving and try to click on NPR to hear him. He's hilarious... I've been meaning to order his last book but keep forgetting.
Also -- 50-year old guys. Yes, they are too old. I've basically set 40 as my cutoff point, since I'd like to have kids, and I'd like a husband who will be able to move about without a wheelchair and a colostomy bag at the kids' high school graduation. But that's just me.
elle: okay well in a way them emailing a twenty three year old actually makes me feel better about it. weird but true.
rofl
that's really funny, you texted someone other than your current fuck buddy to come over for dinner? that's hella funny.
sucks but it's funny.
as for the squats? my knees won't lift weight if i bend past 90 degrees... just won't. squats are hard for me.
JM: yeah several people have been recommending him to me and i finally stole a book from someone and am loving it. i find myself lying in bed with out loud giggling leaving my mouth that i'm not even AWARE of.
npr is pretty good but CBC is better *grin*
see if they have an online feed, our npr (cbc) does...
i set my cut off at 42 and 26 actually :) 8 years in either direction with willingness but not enthusiasm to consider ten.
what no wheelchair? how unromantic of you!
*snicker*
26? Girl, you're much more patient and accomodating than I am. One experience with a younger guy, has, I fear, ruined it for the rest of them. All my fears about being with someone younger were confirmed. Don't think I'll ever go down that road again. Maybe a few months younger... but a year or more? Highly unlikely ...he'd have to REALLY impress me.
JM: well... not all 26 year olds are created equal. i wouldn't say i'm particularly accomodating or patient... it's just you either click or you don't and age really isn't that important (though there are some stage of life issues there...)
that said, what happened that you expected and feared? i'm all curious :)
how old are you?
my fuck buddy is 29..and i find it a bit....
old.
heh...
well i find that age gaps become less and less relevant the older you get. like 13 and 19 is just gross but 23 and 29 is only a bit odd whereas 33 and 39 is totally normal...
:)
Lol... there's not much to it. I'm 31 now... met him last Feb, and he was about 2 and a half years younger. He was all puppydog loveydovey, unrealistic from the start, more in love with the idea of love than with me, etc. I was too stubborn/foolish/wistful to accept it then, so instead I got my heart broken 9 months later when it became painfully clear that he just couldn't handle an adult relationship.
I've been a grownup since before I can remember ... my parents, who are actually pretty strict and protective, let me travel to Egypt by myself when I was 8. They made friends and some sort of arrangement with the women that I would be sitting with, who agreed to take care of me during the 4-hour layover in Amsterdam, and then they let me go off on my own. So I've got very little patience with dependent people.
He was still living at home; dependent on mommy for food/shelter/constant encouragement (aka enabling); had a shit job; kept saying he was going back to school but procrastinated like tomorrow would never come; played video games (for fuck's sake); cried when we argued.
I mean, he was a child. And I'm sure I am projecting unfairly, but I have a lot of trouble believing that younger men are grown up enough to handle a relationship with me. I'm professional, ambitious, I know how to budget, I practice good manners, and I expect at least as much as I give in return (and I give a lot)... I don't know, I just think that to be with a woman, you need to be a man. And so far, most younger men I've come across have been boys.
So I've got a real prejudice against them. I believe that you have to live with yourself before you can live with someone else, and I guess most guys I've come across lately are still tied to the apron strings.
Once bitten, twice shy I guess.
the last guy i dated was 31. he was more immature and less together than i am at 23
i don't think age is a huge issue..and i don't mind, per se, that a guy is older....but it makes things a little more.."how long do you plan on waiting?".."do you ever want to get married?"...."you're this old and you aren't married?!" ya know?
That's my point -- generally, women mature faster than men. If he was 8 years older than you but so much less together, where does that leave me, at 31 and hoping for a reasonable partner? And I don't have the waiting game to play -- I'm ready now. I just wish I could find someone suitable who's ready AND ABLE. Key word there.
but see, that's the thing. ready and able has NOTHING to do with chronological age and everything to do with life experience and so on.
that guy you dated was a putz... and will still be a putz at 50.
(also, *I* play video games :P)
and yeah living with the folks sucks but sometimes tehre really is a reason. in this case though? clearly not.
i've met guys who are my age and who are ready, willing and able...
i don't thing age has to do with that..i think that's more of a good fit, or just a waste of time thing.
elle that's just what i was trying to say but you said it better.
:)
Ok in my head I KNOW that it's not an age thing. But in my experience, it's never worked out with a younger guy so I just push it all off on them. Totally unfair, I know. Also yeah I have dated... I dunno... like a MILLION guys older than I am, and they've been retarded too, not as together as I am and with the stench of breast milk on their lips... ew... but do I throw them all into a pigeonhole and judge them? NO.
I never said I was reasonable, girls.
I'm supposed to have a partner with Viagra...damn...maybe I am a bit selfish in bed...I usually call out my own name..even when I have a partner...haha..kidding..but funny...
hey.....i'm still single
and it can't be solely guy's fault...
we're all unreasonable!
JM: well as long as you know you're irrational you at least have a shot at seeing past your own prejudices. it's the ones who have no idea they're irrational that are sort of the problem.
i have never had it work out with anyone at this point so i'm more thinking it's ALL guys or something. *lmao*
anyway age is a number... like height, within reason, it just doesn't matter.
'the stench of breast milk on their lips' *laughing my fool head off*
reasonable schmeasonable :)
cas: oh man i read that out loud and my neighbour and i both cracked up.
elle: fuckin' word.
i gotta beg to differ on the height thing
that is non-negotiable.
no iff's, and's or butts..you must be two inches taller than me in my slut soes.
that means you must be 6' or over
grainne: it's like there needs to be two different words. one for chronological age and one for actual level of maturity.
i know a 19 year old man and a 47 year old boy. in fact i think that one of the clients i teach who is in his seventies is still quite boyish.
at 34 i am infinitely leery of men in their mid forties and early fifties. it seems they wish to prove that they've still got 'it' whatever it is. the irony of this is that the ones that DO have it? those ones are after women and not trophies.
so they don't have fuck all to prove. i think the midlife crisis is extra shitty for men because there are greater expectations on boys growing up.
wait i'm sorry. i mean for the men who are in their mid 40s NOW. i don't mean for men that are under about 30. i think that with the greater emphasis on living a life you enjoy rather than one you're supposed to that we'll see the 'mid life crisis' disappear a little as well.
mmmm happy fulfilling life. i like to think that i have one of those :)
elle: you're funny. you just wait until some guy who is like 5'7 sweeps you off your feet. you'll never care again :)
well maybe a little but it won't matter so much. personally given my druthers i prefer men my height to two inches taller when we're barefoot.
that said? we all have our own stuff right?
dating a guy shorter than me?!!
*gag*
NO WAY!! eric is 6'5''....on is 6'4''
those are my two choices at the moment..i think i'm good ;)
lol
for now *grin*
i just try not to predict what the universe is going to toss at me. so far i've never been right in my expectations or whatever.
wow that sounds extra tall... 6'5 is my weird out height.
jon. not on!
ok... I think that the RIGHT person (even though I don't think there is ONE right person for everyone, but you get what I mean) can be any age...he or she could be 55 or 21. Now those are the extremes and yes for all intenets and purposes...50s is old...and maybe even 40s...but what if it was George Clooney? Then not such a dirty old man, is it? It is all dependent on how much we like someone.
That said...most of the guys in their 50s that send me crap I don;t have anything in common with and do seem from a different era...so they make me think of my dad and not my boyfriend...feel me? But never say never I guess. There are definitely some older men who are far more interesting than some younger ones.
And...YES on your world turning sideways after something clicking. It happens often with smaller things...but the bigger things? It can take the wind right out of your lungs. But I am grateful for thosemoments when ypu finally get something, even if that something is not something you want to know. But you need to know. Truth can hurt but it is still the best option.
Wow...verbose me is back on a mega rant :)
-N
The hardest part about having a set age range is how to deal with the great available people you keep meeting who are outside that age range. The answer is sometimes to be a bit more fluid with those limits, or it seems to be, until the day you find yourself talking online with someone who is 50, and seriously maybe possibly considering the possibility (been there). And so you have to slap yourself and reconsider what you are really looking for.
When you are looking for someone to spend the rest of your life with, age is very important. Someone too old will cut down on the number of fun years you can spend together, someone too young may not be as serious about the "forever and ever amen" thing that you are looking for.
Regarding the "hey what about me" thing, sometimes we tend to have some of the details of a situation, and we tend to turn them over and over and over in our mind, trying to figure out what we are missing. We build one or more models from the fragments of information that we have. If the "Hey what about me" doesn't fit any of those models, it's usually because the models are wrong.
Don't let your world get turned sideways, get the facts. If it's a guy, ask him.
OK this comment is really big.
I have a word to differentiate chrono-age and maturity-age. It's a phrase, actually: "man-years" ... basically, it works like reverse dog years. If a man is 30, he's actually only about 12. I figure every 2.5 years lived is equivalent to a man-year, give or take a few months.
Unreasonable? Hell yah. But eerily accurate in soooooooooo many cases!
nat: yeah of course. hell the right person for me has changed drastically since i was a younger me and assuming that i remain single i expect that that will continue to change. that said, if you're with someone who suits you you're more likely to change with them but since i'm alone well :)
i agree that the age is irrelevant but that being said you do want to take into consideration how old your partner will be when you're 80. realistically women should all be dating younger men *grin*... anyway bo derek appears to have happy every day of her marriage and she's 25 years his junior. and i know a 58 year old man myself that i find enormously attractive. that said, i don't want to 'make a family' with someone who is drastically out of my age range. if i weren't looking to at least seriously consider having kids (and really i lean toward want over not) it would be different. then their age would be truly irrelevant.
ew dating my dad. ew.
i had a moment with my pilates teacher last week, she was sorta trying to find some stuff to chat about on the phone and i suddenly realised that she actually likes me. all this time i thought i was just a client and no, she likes me. who knew. i really like her but i hadn't been broaching personal topics with her because i thought she was all cool and impersonal. i think she's sort of shy actually.
truth is important. i would always rather know than wonder. nice thing about not being a teenager? i'm willing to get down to it and just hash shit out in a way i totally wasn't before. (yay for verbose!! verbose on.)
mike: oh man it totally is. my neighbour is nineteen and awesome and if he wasn't gay i'd probably have dirty thoughts about him and then be horrified at myself. but yeah, i don't think that i would be able to date someone his age seriously because as IF they're at the settle down and get family like stage of their lives. but. if i were 44 and i met a man who was 29 (rather than 34 and 19) i would date him. he's past 25 and that scary growth period.
okay anyway i think you're right about the fluidity but at the same time it is about what you really want and being realistic. i rather not get with someone who already has adult children for example. that would be too weird when having kids ... i don't know. you never know what you are going to get and i find you probably just adjust. i do know that i cut the flirting with men over 50 though :)
you're right, models built on incorrect information or assumptions can get us in a lot of trouble. like i suddenly find out 3 months in that this client has been doing yoga for THIRTEEN years. thirteen years. the scary part is how body unaware she is. i thought she had hardly anything. man changed how i talk to her. i think it's the weirdest when you think you have all the facts and then realise that no, no you don't.
regarding guys? i'm getting better at taking the bull by the horns but it's hard. it's sort of contrary to my nature... which is funny cause it so isn't when you see how i am in daily life. just when i was in high school girls who asked boys out were 'that kind of girl' you know.
you think your comment is big? check out the one i'm making right now!
JM: man. i'm going to try that. but i'm afraid of it.
i love the fact he's 6'5''...that right there just is a huge turn on
my friend jake is 6'6''....best! piggy! back! rides! EVER!!!
man years eh?
i like the immaturity of men....probably because i'm fairly immature when i'm not at school/work.
sass? your pilates teacher likes you??? do tell. are we talking relationship like? or friendship like? and if it is relationship like, do you think it's possible to just jump to the other side once someone gay is interested in you? and if someone gay is interested in you, isn't that also kinda weird, cuz they know you're not gay and are still wanting to hook up with you??
one of my best friends is lesbian...like hardcore and won't ever be with bi girls...but she always teases me about me going to the other side and being with her...
kinda wigs me out....but i love her...anyhoo...work the whole pilates teacher story...i wanna hear what that's all about.
elle: well i can see liking the height thing for sure. it was certainly neat the couple of times i've dates someone that tall. i just do NOT care the same way you do. and i prefer matching.
that said? i want a piggy back ride from jake!!!
i love their willingness to be childish. it's the mature ones who are also twelve that get me.
jenn: oh man i'm sorry
friendly friendly!
just i realised she actually enjoys having me around and all this time i thought i was just another client. it was neat to realise that and really cool. (i really like her you see... also revere her but that's different)
oh man...i was hoping for another turn to this whole love/height/age/viagra drama...lol
sorry dude... can't help with that. in fact i have to crash, just blogged into my sleep again...
I actually managed to get to bed before 1 last night. GEtting up at 6 am during the week I should optimally be trying to get to bed around 10pm, but I just can't do that. Though somehow I used to manage it back when my ex-fiance was living here. Hm.
I thought for a minute your Pilates teacher like liked you too, but I caught on.
Is Jake actually handing out piggy back rides... I need to know this because apparently he's the hottest bachelor in NY.
Alright, I did read the whole post but I have to say that DAMN the first part of your post is sooo relevant to my last weeks dilemma... I mean holy shit you couldn't have hit it on the head any better dude.
and THIS is why I love you...
So when you asked have you ever? I say...absofuckinglutely and it SUCKS.
mike: i only get up that early one day a week and trust me it about kills me every time. that said i can come home and have a nap.
it's a lot easier to go to bed when there's someone to go with. i didn't mean to be so unclear about her, in fact she has a very nice boyfriend.
bubbles: if he's handing out piggy back rides in new york? i'm there so much more.
your world went sideways too huh? s'not fun at all... regardless of whether it falls on the good side or not...
(really the first part is the meat of the post anyway)
jake hands them out willingly
seriously..it pains me that he's single. he's absolutely studly, he's smart, he's super sweet... i mean for channukah he got me this valentino dress i've been orgasming over since he and i went walking downtown last august....he *bought* it for me....(all i got him was...well...a trip to tahoe...which doesn't compare)
get in line ladies! i need to find him a woman :)
elle are you sure you don't want to date him yourself?
that said? i want a piggy back ride! i don't think i want to date someone who's 23 though :)
i love men that pay attention to the things that you love and then surprise you with them. there's something extra magical about them.
he's 29 sass :)
nope, don't want him for myself. he's like a brother to me, in all honesty. we have that vibe...and people who see us together assume that we are brother and sister, not dating
which is weird, because people think that my bro and i are dating when we're out sometimes *gag*
elle: see now he sounds just about perfect *g*
i totally get what you're saying. hubris and i are like that with each other actually. clearly former relatives who have found each other again.
people think my sister and i are a lesbian couple on a semi regular basis. weird isn't it?
I've had beautiful women who were "just friends"... if friendship includes nudity and fondling and kissing and sex...
OK seriously, a question to the other guys here. Are guys capable of "just friendship" with women (assuming both are single)? Or when a guy says he thinks of a girl as a friend, is it datingese for "I'm not into you"
Women can comment too, and since this is probably reaching the end of this chapter in the life of Sass's blog, there may not be many replies to this.
*grin*
you've hit upon the reason my much neglected blogspot blog is called spunsideways. ;)
mike: write a post about it and i'll post it. otherwise i'll reference it in my next post. let me know k?
sometimes they say they think you're a friend and they're into you. and sometimes they're not into you. tragically we girls don't get telepathic messages to let us know the difference.
it's a good question, i'll post it either way.
md: lol
now i want to hear the story.
also? call me i need a meeting! :)
Yeah..definitely no piggy back rides for me...he'd die. But I am hoping that this whole madness will be over this week of Monday or Tuesday...and then.. WATCH OUT. I am hitting the gym and going on the GI diet!
-N
Well, I started out to write a blog post about it Sass, but got sidetracked by the stupid cbc thing. You know I have a degree in political science? Used to work for a cabinet minister in an office in the parliament buildings? I can't believe how much I haven't given a damn about this election.
nat: i hope so too. i know how much you want to get a handle on it. just start slow okay?
mike: i didn't know you had a degree in PS.. i don't think you told me that. you got sidetracked by the election that i'm watching too?
i didn't know that either. i forgot the election was today. TWICE.
and still it sucks.
I haven't been paying much attention to the election. I'm becoming a more spiritual person in some ways and I'm finding that I am not as interested in politics as I once was. In fact I have avoided all election news, though tonight I had a peek.
Still, I'm disappointed that Canadians have chosen Stephen Harper as the new leader.
I'm disappointed. That's all I'm going to say about it. There is still one slight chance, a Liberal-NDP coalition government, but...
P.S. and I am a conservative
mike: i've been actively ignoring it but even still the mudslinging has been getting to me. i find it hard to pay attention to them and still stay connected to the universe. so yeah i sympathise.
i'm fully disappointed. the man scares me. he has serial killer eyes as PV said earlier.
nope, no chance of that. what about liberal/bloc? :)
yeah i noted that blueness of you in your blog.
If the NDP came out and said they were considering a coalition they would lose the votes of everyone who dislikes the Libs. It's a great way to lose votes and seats. So despite what's been said, we'll have to watch over the next week or 2 to see what happens.
Forming a coalition with the Bloc will ensure that any party will never form government again.
Spring is budget time. The conservatives are in a minoriy situation. If any government loses on the budget vote, an election is called immediately.
The Libs are the ones most likely to gain if the Harper goes down, so they won't vote for the budget. The NDP is ideologically opposed to the conservatives, so they won't support the budget. The Bloc was hurt in Quebec by the Conservatives, so they will want to regain ground and will not likely support it.
So, depending on how much time the Bloc feels it needs to get ready for another election, there will be another election either this year or next.
I knew Harper when we were both party staffers, and I used to think he had raccoon eyes.
one more thing. I was talking to a friend of mine, Warren Kinsella, and there's almost a zero chance Chretien will run again. His wife won't let him.
mike: well i have to tell you of all the leaders duseppe was the one i liked the most in this campaign. i think i'll just go to the garden and vote green :)
thing is if they call an election that soon whomever caused it is going to get spanked.
i'm hoping for the next year....
raccoon eyes? that's funny. but i think he would have been delighted to join any party hitler led and that's what scares me about him.
chretien or martin? cause martin just stepped down.
No, was referring to Chretien. I thought it would be fun, though I'm still technically a Tory, if Chretien came back. But apparently women can ruin everything.
Pleeeeease Mrs C? Please let him run?
wouldn't it be awesome if he came back?
i think mckenna is probably the only choice for leader but i'm likely to be surprised.
I think that right now the federal scene is filled with boring people. My party is gone, and I'm swaying between the 2 main parties. I will have to wait for one of them to pick a leader who inspires me. If either Bernard Lord or Jean Charest became Tory leader I'd go that way. If Chretien came back, or Justin Trudeau I'd go that way.
Right now though I'm sure that although Justin knows he'd win hands down, he is a bit young to go ruining his life like that.
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